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		<title>By: Derby Preview: Lets smash &#8216;em &#171; The Cannon</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...]  trackback  Now I don&#8217;t want to get too over confident, once apon a time I wrote a headline: &#8216;The Hammers are in for a hammering&#8216; and we lost 1-0. However tonight I&#8217;m just hoping we can put on a good show for the [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...]  trackback  Now I don&#8217;t want to get too over confident, once apon a time I wrote a headline: &#8216;The Hammers are in for a hammering&#8216; and we lost 1-0. However tonight I&#8217;m just hoping we can put on a good show for the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: ERIC MCCONNELL</title>
		<link>http://the-cannon.com/2006/11/04/the-hammers-are-in-for-a-hammering/#comment-1302</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ERIC MCCONNELL]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Nov 2006 21:16:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have to disagree with you on Rosiscky. He missed an open net in front of cska moscow that was just pathetic. the espn commentator, I think it was tommy smythe said &quot;It was harder NOT to score there and Rosiscky missed anyway.&quot; Sickening.I shreiked with pain watching it. My neighbor came over and thought I was having a seizure of some sort. And I was. I have a 13 year old house cat who could have put that ball away...and she weighs less than the bloody ball.  For god&#039;s sake WENGER HIMSELF COULD HAVE TUCKED THAT AWAY. No my friend, we left two points on the field  and an opportunity to advance to the next stage out on the pitch specifically on Rosiscky&#039;s account that night. Everyone finished poorly but that was the worst. the worst finish I&#039;ve seen in topflight football by an offensive midfielder in years.I&#039;ll get right to the heart of the matter. Would Robert Pires have put that ball away? The answer is a RESOUNDING YES.  Would Patrick Viera have gathered the mates together and snatched a goal or two out of that disaster against Moscow and today against West Ham. Again a RESOUNDING YES!! And I hear Rosiscky missed a couple of good opportunities AGAIN today. Why is it that Christiano Ronaldo is taking shots and scoring from 25-30 meters and we are trying to walk the ball into the bloody net for 90 minutes?it&#039;s incredible, we know people are going to put 7-10 guys behind the ball and counter attack us and our pretty boy midfielders play right into their hands every week. I understand a youth movement but we have given in too much to it. The real problem is we have boys playing a man&#039;s game. And the young guys play down to what they perceive as the level of their competition. For nearly two weeks now  Fabregas, Hleb, Rosiscky, VanPersie, they all play like they will have chance after chance against lower rung teams so squandering chances is no big deal. You watch them play well against Liverpool next week. And then they will leave points on the pitch vs. Bolton and Fulham. Teams they should pick apart like rotisserie chicken. Even Henry plays away chances that drogba and saha would try to bury. Sometimes it takes a chance to get a chance. When was the last goal we scored on a rebound scramble off a loose shot? I can&#039;t even remember and its because all of our misses go wide out of bounds for goal kicks or we end up playing the ball back to the defense by trying to score masterpieces instead of trying to score goals. Rosiscky must go. We don&#039;t want his value to drop and weaknesses in his game to be exposed like Veron...who ended up being worthless on the pitch to Man U. AND in the tsfr market.  We will still be able to fetch a quality player in exchange for him January but not over the summer because he will be a proven joke by then. Van Persie too. And let&#039;s get some veterans in here who care about winning right now....not looking good for girls in the stands and winning a title somewhere down the road.  THIS TEAM PLAYS WITH NO SENSE OF URGENCY AND THE SLAVISH MENTALITY TO THE YOUTH MOVEMENT IS A BIG PART OF IT. These guys have heard so much about how young this team is that they don&#039;t feel like they have to win now. But Sidney Govou was in his early 20&#039;s and winning at Lyon.  Ballack was not much older than Rosiscky is right now when he was leading Bayern to Bundesliga titles. Samuel Eto&#039;o is 24, the same age as Van Persie and he has a champion&#039;s league medal and La Liga titles. Moving Rosiscky and/or (hopefully both) will send a clear message to the team that ARSENAL football is about finishing football.WINNING PREMIERSHIP FOOTBALL. not winning five years from now. winning now. and next year. and whatever year it is. period. no more of this building towards the future rubbish.  And furthermore, the chairman of the board should curtail Wenger the next time he wants to go on one of these shopping sprees and make sure he brings in footballers with a LOT more substance to their games and a little bit less style.  As much as it kill me to say, the reason the Red Devils are at the top of the table right now is that they selling the steak and Arsenal is selling the sizzle. We sacrificed veteran, proven championship winning footballers for the likes of VanPersie and Rosiscky. They underachieved as internationals and they are underachieving as professionals. For heaven&#039;s sake Bush is &#039;finishing the job in Iraq&#039; better than those two are finishing chances. If we can&#039;t move them, once Adebayor and Baptista come back, I hope those two guys are BURIED UNDERNEATH OF THE SECOND TEAM UNTIL THEY BEG TO BE TRANSFERED AND GOOD RIDDANCE TO BOTH OF THEM.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to disagree with you on Rosiscky. He missed an open net in front of cska moscow that was just pathetic. the espn commentator, I think it was tommy smythe said &#8220;It was harder NOT to score there and Rosiscky missed anyway.&#8221; Sickening.I shreiked with pain watching it. My neighbor came over and thought I was having a seizure of some sort. And I was. I have a 13 year old house cat who could have put that ball away&#8230;and she weighs less than the bloody ball.  For god&#8217;s sake WENGER HIMSELF COULD HAVE TUCKED THAT AWAY. No my friend, we left two points on the field  and an opportunity to advance to the next stage out on the pitch specifically on Rosiscky&#8217;s account that night. Everyone finished poorly but that was the worst. the worst finish I&#8217;ve seen in topflight football by an offensive midfielder in years.I&#8217;ll get right to the heart of the matter. Would Robert Pires have put that ball away? The answer is a RESOUNDING YES.  Would Patrick Viera have gathered the mates together and snatched a goal or two out of that disaster against Moscow and today against West Ham. Again a RESOUNDING YES!! And I hear Rosiscky missed a couple of good opportunities AGAIN today. Why is it that Christiano Ronaldo is taking shots and scoring from 25-30 meters and we are trying to walk the ball into the bloody net for 90 minutes?it&#8217;s incredible, we know people are going to put 7-10 guys behind the ball and counter attack us and our pretty boy midfielders play right into their hands every week. I understand a youth movement but we have given in too much to it. The real problem is we have boys playing a man&#8217;s game. And the young guys play down to what they perceive as the level of their competition. For nearly two weeks now  Fabregas, Hleb, Rosiscky, VanPersie, they all play like they will have chance after chance against lower rung teams so squandering chances is no big deal. You watch them play well against Liverpool next week. And then they will leave points on the pitch vs. Bolton and Fulham. Teams they should pick apart like rotisserie chicken. Even Henry plays away chances that drogba and saha would try to bury. Sometimes it takes a chance to get a chance. When was the last goal we scored on a rebound scramble off a loose shot? I can&#8217;t even remember and its because all of our misses go wide out of bounds for goal kicks or we end up playing the ball back to the defense by trying to score masterpieces instead of trying to score goals. Rosiscky must go. We don&#8217;t want his value to drop and weaknesses in his game to be exposed like Veron&#8230;who ended up being worthless on the pitch to Man U. AND in the tsfr market.  We will still be able to fetch a quality player in exchange for him January but not over the summer because he will be a proven joke by then. Van Persie too. And let&#8217;s get some veterans in here who care about winning right now&#8230;.not looking good for girls in the stands and winning a title somewhere down the road.  THIS TEAM PLAYS WITH NO SENSE OF URGENCY AND THE SLAVISH MENTALITY TO THE YOUTH MOVEMENT IS A BIG PART OF IT. These guys have heard so much about how young this team is that they don&#8217;t feel like they have to win now. But Sidney Govou was in his early 20&#8242;s and winning at Lyon.  Ballack was not much older than Rosiscky is right now when he was leading Bayern to Bundesliga titles. Samuel Eto&#8217;o is 24, the same age as Van Persie and he has a champion&#8217;s league medal and La Liga titles. Moving Rosiscky and/or (hopefully both) will send a clear message to the team that ARSENAL football is about finishing football.WINNING PREMIERSHIP FOOTBALL. not winning five years from now. winning now. and next year. and whatever year it is. period. no more of this building towards the future rubbish.  And furthermore, the chairman of the board should curtail Wenger the next time he wants to go on one of these shopping sprees and make sure he brings in footballers with a LOT more substance to their games and a little bit less style.  As much as it kill me to say, the reason the Red Devils are at the top of the table right now is that they selling the steak and Arsenal is selling the sizzle. We sacrificed veteran, proven championship winning footballers for the likes of VanPersie and Rosiscky. They underachieved as internationals and they are underachieving as professionals. For heaven&#8217;s sake Bush is &#8216;finishing the job in Iraq&#8217; better than those two are finishing chances. If we can&#8217;t move them, once Adebayor and Baptista come back, I hope those two guys are BURIED UNDERNEATH OF THE SECOND TEAM UNTIL THEY BEG TO BE TRANSFERED AND GOOD RIDDANCE TO BOTH OF THEM.</p>
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		<title>By: Justin</title>
		<link>http://the-cannon.com/2006/11/04/the-hammers-are-in-for-a-hammering/#comment-1291</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Justin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Nov 2006 18:52:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Replace wenger? No. 

But agree with what you say about our players being to comfortable. I reckon Aliediere should have been given a go ahead of RVP. Although i think the world of RVP, hes just not pulling his weight. Even Henry gets complacent and i know i&#039;ll probably get flack for this but NO player is above the club and if he doesnt perform he needs to be substituted.

Rosicky is doing alright. In fact hes doing pretty well for a new boy. Hleb too. Yeah again would have liked to see walcott or Ali play]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Replace wenger? No. </p>
<p>But agree with what you say about our players being to comfortable. I reckon Aliediere should have been given a go ahead of RVP. Although i think the world of RVP, hes just not pulling his weight. Even Henry gets complacent and i know i&#8217;ll probably get flack for this but NO player is above the club and if he doesnt perform he needs to be substituted.</p>
<p>Rosicky is doing alright. In fact hes doing pretty well for a new boy. Hleb too. Yeah again would have liked to see walcott or Ali play</p>
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		<title>By: ERIC MCCONNELL</title>
		<link>http://the-cannon.com/2006/11/04/the-hammers-are-in-for-a-hammering/#comment-1286</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ERIC MCCONNELL]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Nov 2006 17:58:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am having a very difficult time with this club.  It is inconceivable to me how I watch prem sides like man. u and liverpool finish in front of goal every week with less talent, less ability. for a club this talented to go through games against everton, cska moscow, about 180 minutes and score only one goal is pathetic. it really is.  wenger has amassed a talented team of pinpoint passing prettyboys who would rather look bad losing than score ugly goals and win. I am so tired of seeing this team try to score the &#039;goal of the decade&#039; every time they generate a chance. Wenger reallly needs to put the fear of god into this team and make it clear that missing chances in front of net like they have will cost them playing time...not just with arsenal but in the prem in general.  I think some guys need to be moved. Rosiscky&#039;s and Van Persies lack of finishing touch has probably already cost us the prem title and we won&#039;t fare any better in the CL the way we are...or rather are not filling up the net.  once adebayor, diaby and baptista come back, I hope to NEVER SEE ROSISCKY OR VAN PERSIE on the field again this year until they learn how to finish like top flight footballers.   I watched young aaron lennon finish chelsea off today off one good ball from robbie keane. I asked myself if we would have scored there and thought immediately...no. Henry would have tried to play the ball back over the middle to fabregas, who would hve one touched it to Van Scurvy, who would have completely missed the open net. I look at dirk kuyts goals yesterday against reading. would we have scored there? no. and I&#039;m so sick of how after every match its the same thing from the whole side &quot;we&#039;re not going to change how we play.&quot; &quot;this is the most entertaining team in the world&quot; of course it is, b/c fans love to watch us play the beautiful game for 90 minutes...AND LOSE BECAUSE WE CAN&#039;T FINISH. the truth is changes need to be made.  this team struts around the field one touching and passing the ball with all the arrogance of a five time defending treble winner, when the truth is it&#039;s been years since we won jack and that&#039;s mostly because this kind of arrogant, pretty boy football has taken hold with the team since viera left. I think the january transfer window should be used to discard the non-finishers and bring in some proven guys who can fill it up in the prem. forget these foreigners who want to play the beautiful game. lets get some englishmen, some germans some guys who can play DIRECT FOOTBALL before we lose yet another season because of  the pathetic arrogance, over passing and lack of execution that has sadly come to symbolize arsenal football. and if that doesn&#039;t work....maybe it&#039;s time to talk about Wenger..because I don&#039;t think he is getting this team in the right frame of mind to play top flight football this year. there is no killer instinct or intensity about this team whatsoever. and our record reflects this. the prem title is already out of reach.  we will need to muster up great results against porto and hamburg to get through in the CL and the way we are playing, I am just going to assume that our CL season is over....just like the next 5 years of arsenal football if they can&#039;t get this together. look at the team. fabregas, van persie, rosiscky, hleb, we&#039;re stuck with these guys and they can&#039;t produce. who&#039;s going to take those bums off of our hands at year&#039;s end after the way they&#039;ve embarrassed themselves in front of net? And I don&#039;t think ribery is the saviour either. He missed several open nets in the world cup, most notably a chance to win in the final. No, we need direct footballers and not pretty boys and wenger just keeps bringing in these model acrtress types. Reyes was the same way. all ability and no desire and I &#039;m getting sick of it.  The 2002 team could pick people apart like this BUT THEY FINISHED IN FRONT OF NET and that&#039;s why they won the double. ARSENAL FOOTBALL HAS BECOME A PATHETIC JOKE.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am having a very difficult time with this club.  It is inconceivable to me how I watch prem sides like man. u and liverpool finish in front of goal every week with less talent, less ability. for a club this talented to go through games against everton, cska moscow, about 180 minutes and score only one goal is pathetic. it really is.  wenger has amassed a talented team of pinpoint passing prettyboys who would rather look bad losing than score ugly goals and win. I am so tired of seeing this team try to score the &#8216;goal of the decade&#8217; every time they generate a chance. Wenger reallly needs to put the fear of god into this team and make it clear that missing chances in front of net like they have will cost them playing time&#8230;not just with arsenal but in the prem in general.  I think some guys need to be moved. Rosiscky&#8217;s and Van Persies lack of finishing touch has probably already cost us the prem title and we won&#8217;t fare any better in the CL the way we are&#8230;or rather are not filling up the net.  once adebayor, diaby and baptista come back, I hope to NEVER SEE ROSISCKY OR VAN PERSIE on the field again this year until they learn how to finish like top flight footballers.   I watched young aaron lennon finish chelsea off today off one good ball from robbie keane. I asked myself if we would have scored there and thought immediately&#8230;no. Henry would have tried to play the ball back over the middle to fabregas, who would hve one touched it to Van Scurvy, who would have completely missed the open net. I look at dirk kuyts goals yesterday against reading. would we have scored there? no. and I&#8217;m so sick of how after every match its the same thing from the whole side &#8220;we&#8217;re not going to change how we play.&#8221; &#8220;this is the most entertaining team in the world&#8221; of course it is, b/c fans love to watch us play the beautiful game for 90 minutes&#8230;AND LOSE BECAUSE WE CAN&#8217;T FINISH. the truth is changes need to be made.  this team struts around the field one touching and passing the ball with all the arrogance of a five time defending treble winner, when the truth is it&#8217;s been years since we won jack and that&#8217;s mostly because this kind of arrogant, pretty boy football has taken hold with the team since viera left. I think the january transfer window should be used to discard the non-finishers and bring in some proven guys who can fill it up in the prem. forget these foreigners who want to play the beautiful game. lets get some englishmen, some germans some guys who can play DIRECT FOOTBALL before we lose yet another season because of  the pathetic arrogance, over passing and lack of execution that has sadly come to symbolize arsenal football. and if that doesn&#8217;t work&#8230;.maybe it&#8217;s time to talk about Wenger..because I don&#8217;t think he is getting this team in the right frame of mind to play top flight football this year. there is no killer instinct or intensity about this team whatsoever. and our record reflects this. the prem title is already out of reach.  we will need to muster up great results against porto and hamburg to get through in the CL and the way we are playing, I am just going to assume that our CL season is over&#8230;.just like the next 5 years of arsenal football if they can&#8217;t get this together. look at the team. fabregas, van persie, rosiscky, hleb, we&#8217;re stuck with these guys and they can&#8217;t produce. who&#8217;s going to take those bums off of our hands at year&#8217;s end after the way they&#8217;ve embarrassed themselves in front of net? And I don&#8217;t think ribery is the saviour either. He missed several open nets in the world cup, most notably a chance to win in the final. No, we need direct footballers and not pretty boys and wenger just keeps bringing in these model acrtress types. Reyes was the same way. all ability and no desire and I &#8216;m getting sick of it.  The 2002 team could pick people apart like this BUT THEY FINISHED IN FRONT OF NET and that&#8217;s why they won the double. ARSENAL FOOTBALL HAS BECOME A PATHETIC JOKE.</p>
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		<title>By: Justin</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Nov 2006 16:15:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Lemme be the first to say that the loss against west ham was heart breaking]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lemme be the first to say that the loss against west ham was heart breaking</p>
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		<title>By: aussiegooner</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[aussiegooner]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Nov 2006 09:06:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[hear hear..]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hear hear..</p>
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