Comments on: ‘Let’s win it next year’ + Cesc competition http://the-cannon.com/2008/05/07/lets-win-it-next-year-cesc-competition/ the-cannon.com - An Arsenal FC Blog Wed, 08 Sep 2010 17:59:31 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: another gooner mug! http://the-cannon.com/2008/05/07/lets-win-it-next-year-cesc-competition/#comment-40974 another gooner mug! Fri, 09 May 2008 07:22:28 +0000 http://thecannon.wordpress.com/?p=885#comment-40974 Next season when we do not finish in the top four it will be too late to change our direction as we rely heavily on our champions league income and without it we will not attract any big name players. And by the way, we was told that we had to move stadium so we could compete with the best in europe when it comes to transfers.... well, why hasnt that materialised? We have all been conned, the fans have been told "next year we will be stronger" too often and now i realise what a lousy line we have been spun! Next season when we do not finish in the top four it will be too late to change our direction as we rely heavily on our champions league income and without it we will not attract any big name players.

And by the way, we was told that we had to move stadium so we could compete with the best in europe when it comes to transfers….
well, why hasnt that materialised? We have all been conned, the fans have been told “next year we will be stronger” too often and now i realise what a lousy line we have been spun!

]]> By: desper8-4sucsesc http://the-cannon.com/2008/05/07/lets-win-it-next-year-cesc-competition/#comment-40973 desper8-4sucsesc Fri, 09 May 2008 07:11:37 +0000 http://thecannon.wordpress.com/?p=885#comment-40973 WAKE UP ARSENE !! Lets face it, we are a feeder club for the big boys in europe and always will be whilst we depend on youth, arsene has lost the plot, it was ok getting kids in three or four years ago and they were then "ones for the future", this policy hasnt worked and for how much longer is our club going to used as some kind of experiment that so far has delivered nothing in three years. There isnt a club in europe that has or ever will be the dominant one when it has depended so much on kids. Can you blame any of these foreign players using arsenal as a stepping stone, they have no passion or desire to succeed at arsenal, as soon as the team hit a sticky patch around about christmas the players gave up, apart from our win at man city we have been poor in the league since december. The players have absolutely no passion and that was bourne out in the most prestigious cup competition in the world, we was a disgrace in the league cup and its impossible for a youngster from africa, easton europe or for that matter anywhere in the world to feel the pain i do as a life long arsenal fan when we lose. Ive seen people on this site shouted down for claiming that arsenal need to change their policy on transfer fees and its wage structure and its the inability of you "trust in arsene" mob to appreciate that we need to change that is contributing to arsenals woes. Being promised Jam tomorrow is now an outdated and ill advised concept that just hasnt worked and anyone that thinks this crop of talent at arsenal can change our fortunes over the next three years are deluded, especially without fabregas, hleb and to a lesser extent flamini. Passenal, If things are so rosey why do our players up sticks and clear off as soon as they get the chance? Too many arsenal fans are wandering around like you with rose tinted glasses on because its a show of defiance against manchester united and chelsea but face facts, we are destined for a future mediocrety unless our policies change and how long before it starts to affect gates at the emirates? Wenger is no demi-god and as far as i am concerned he is reaching his sell by date, maybe frank should be snapped up as he would inject a new hunger into the team and perhaps convince a few of our crown jewels to stay. WAKE UP ARSENE !!

Lets face it, we are a feeder club for the big boys in europe and always will be whilst we depend on youth, arsene has lost the plot, it was ok getting kids in three or four years ago and they were then “ones for the future”, this policy hasnt worked and for how much longer is our club going to used as some kind of experiment that so far has delivered nothing in three years. There isnt a club in europe that has or ever will be the dominant one when it has depended so much on kids. Can you blame any of these foreign players using arsenal as a stepping stone, they have no passion or desire to succeed at arsenal, as soon as the team hit a sticky patch around about christmas the players gave up, apart from our win at man city we have been poor in the league since december. The players have absolutely no passion and that was bourne out in the most prestigious cup competition in the world, we was a disgrace in the league cup and its impossible for a youngster from africa, easton europe or for that matter anywhere in the world to feel the pain i do as a life long arsenal fan when we lose. Ive seen people on this site shouted down for claiming that arsenal need to change their policy on transfer fees and its wage structure and its the inability of you “trust in arsene” mob to appreciate that we need to change that is contributing to arsenals woes. Being promised Jam tomorrow is now an outdated and ill advised concept that just hasnt worked and anyone that thinks this crop of talent at arsenal can change our fortunes over the next three years are deluded, especially without fabregas, hleb and to a lesser extent flamini.
Passenal,
If things are so rosey why do our players up sticks and clear off as soon as they get the chance? Too many arsenal fans are wandering around like you with rose tinted glasses on because its a show of defiance against manchester united and chelsea but face facts, we are destined for a future mediocrety unless our policies change and how long before it starts to affect gates at the emirates?

Wenger is no demi-god and as far as i am concerned he is reaching his sell by date, maybe frank should be snapped up as he would inject a new hunger into the team and perhaps convince a few of our crown jewels to stay.

]]> By: Passenal http://the-cannon.com/2008/05/07/lets-win-it-next-year-cesc-competition/#comment-40966 Passenal Thu, 08 May 2008 19:20:50 +0000 http://thecannon.wordpress.com/?p=885#comment-40966 We are 4 points behind the leaders not 40 points so I can't see what all the bleating is about. The odd goal here or there, or better defending when we were in the lead and we could be celebrating. We suffered a devasting loss of one too many creative players when we lost Eduardo. That cannot possibly happen every season and like Wenger says, if we want to prove that we are winners, we will be back. We are 4 points behind the leaders not 40 points so I can’t see what all the bleating is about. The odd goal here or there, or better defending when we were in the lead and we could be celebrating. We suffered a devasting loss of one too many creative players when we lost Eduardo. That cannot possibly happen every season and like Wenger says, if we want to prove that we are winners, we will be back.

]]> By: Blog Head http://the-cannon.com/2008/05/07/lets-win-it-next-year-cesc-competition/#comment-40960 Blog Head Thu, 08 May 2008 08:32:54 +0000 http://thecannon.wordpress.com/?p=885#comment-40960 Peter, Dude I didnt know you was a pirate. Arrrrghhhhh !!!!!!!!!!! Peter,

Dude I didnt know you was a pirate.

Arrrrghhhhh !!!!!!!!!!!

]]> By: The Saint http://the-cannon.com/2008/05/07/lets-win-it-next-year-cesc-competition/#comment-40959 The Saint Thu, 08 May 2008 06:52:06 +0000 http://thecannon.wordpress.com/?p=885#comment-40959 To stop being a feeder club, we need to have a nice balance of older, experienced pros who have been there and done that i.e. actually won things and the young ones that we have now. Two of these winners will be gone next season: Lehmann and Gilberto. Gallas is likely to go too not much later. Skills are great up to a certain level but in the end when the chips are down you also need strong people mentally. At the top level in any sport everyone has talent but what differentiates the winners from the losers is a mentality. Manure and Chelski had loads of players with this and that is why they beat out our more skillful players and are contesting for the top prizes this season. In my estimation through attrition, we have lost these types of players: Bergkamp, Adams, Ljungberg, Cole, Lehmann, Vieira - skillful players with even more skillful minds! It will take ages to develop this quality with kids and it's also an impossibility because just when you think they are getting there, young players naturally will lose patience and leave. Although we didn't intend it, we end up being the feeder club to the big clubs and as in the case of Flamini, as players wise up, we will also lose compensation in the form of transfer fees to add insult to injury. So what do we need to do? Spend big and find over time, perhaps by adding 2 players per season, mentally strong/skillful experienced players. Yes, they cost more but to be penny wise pound foolish is not the way to move forward. Otherwise, expect many, many more seasons of mediocrity and rebuilding every year. To stop being a feeder club, we need to have a nice balance of older, experienced pros who have been there and done that i.e. actually won things and the young ones that we have now. Two of these winners will be gone next season: Lehmann and Gilberto. Gallas is likely to go too not much later. Skills are great up to a certain level but in the end when the chips are down you also need strong people mentally. At the top level in any sport everyone has talent but what differentiates the winners from the losers is a mentality. Manure and Chelski had loads of players with this and that is why they beat out our more skillful players and are contesting for the top prizes this season. In my estimation through attrition, we have lost these types of players: Bergkamp, Adams, Ljungberg, Cole, Lehmann, Vieira – skillful players with even more skillful minds! It will take ages to develop this quality with kids and it’s also an impossibility because just when you think they are getting there, young players naturally will lose patience and leave. Although we didn’t intend it, we end up being the feeder club to the big clubs and as in the case of Flamini, as players wise up, we will also lose compensation in the form of transfer fees to add insult to injury. So what do we need to do? Spend big and find over time, perhaps by adding 2 players per season, mentally strong/skillful experienced players. Yes, they cost more but to be penny wise pound foolish is not the way to move forward. Otherwise, expect many, many more seasons of mediocrity and rebuilding every year.

]]> By: bal http://the-cannon.com/2008/05/07/lets-win-it-next-year-cesc-competition/#comment-40958 bal Thu, 08 May 2008 05:14:17 +0000 http://thecannon.wordpress.com/?p=885#comment-40958 i dont think flamini thats great anyway..he wouldnt be quite a loss...there are replacements at the club an abroad as well...he was not good in the air,not strong physically...i hope diego comes from werder bremen i dont think flamini thats great anyway..he wouldnt be quite a loss…there are replacements at the club an abroad as well…he was not good in the air,not strong physically…i hope diego comes from werder bremen

]]> By: iceman http://the-cannon.com/2008/05/07/lets-win-it-next-year-cesc-competition/#comment-40957 iceman Thu, 08 May 2008 01:56:35 +0000 http://thecannon.wordpress.com/?p=885#comment-40957 flamini had a good season.doesn't make him irreplaceable. he;'s gonna def regret it. flamini had a good season.doesn’t make him irreplaceable. he;’s gonna def regret it.

]]> By: Peter http://the-cannon.com/2008/05/07/lets-win-it-next-year-cesc-competition/#comment-40956 Peter Wed, 07 May 2008 22:53:48 +0000 http://thecannon.wordpress.com/?p=885#comment-40956 U just reminded me of van persie, man, if that guy can stay fit wel walk away with the league bit of a long shot tho Aargh U just reminded me of van persie,
man, if that guy can stay fit wel walk away with the league
bit of a long shot tho
Aargh

]]> By: CaribKid http://the-cannon.com/2008/05/07/lets-win-it-next-year-cesc-competition/#comment-40954 CaribKid Wed, 07 May 2008 22:05:31 +0000 http://thecannon.wordpress.com/?p=885#comment-40954 Wake up boys and smell the roses while we still can. As I have mentioned previously in some of my blogs, Manu and Liverpool have been in a fiscal crisis for the past few years due to their operating losses and inability to infuse new cash to cover these losses. Chelsea has their benefactor in Abramovich, City now has theirs in Shinawatra, Ashley may infuse some of his millions in Newcastle as with Aston Villa and Maybe Levy with Spurs. However, these clubs are all running at varying degrees of losses and are being subsidized by their benefactors or by the sale of shares. Apart from Chelsea who can survive as long as Abranovich does not get bored and City, If Shinawatra can get his assets unfrozen, the other clubs are in peril of being bankrupt in the near future. Fortunately or unfortunately, depending on your views, with the EPL being recognized as the most attractive league in the world and the enormous upsurge in share values there will always be some billionaire person or corporation willing to part with their funds for the prestige and notoriety associated with the purchase of an EPL club. If clubs do not rein in their spending in the not too distant future, the EPL will have few if any British owners. Arsenal on the other hand should be commended for taking a logical and financially sound stance while still providing great entertainment on the pitch and being contenders year in and year out. I sometimes get very irate when all the fair weather fans repeatedly lambaste Arsene and the Board, and want us to spend, spend, spend and win now at any cost without looking at the “BIG” picture. Wake up boys and smell the roses while we still can.

As I have mentioned previously in some of my blogs, Manu and Liverpool have been in a fiscal crisis for the past few years due to their operating losses and inability to infuse new cash to cover these losses.

Chelsea has their benefactor in Abramovich, City now has theirs in Shinawatra, Ashley may infuse some of his millions in Newcastle as with Aston Villa and Maybe Levy with Spurs. However, these clubs are all running at varying degrees of losses and are being subsidized by their benefactors or by the sale of shares.

Apart from Chelsea who can survive as long as Abranovich does not get bored and City, If Shinawatra can get his assets unfrozen, the other clubs are in peril of being bankrupt in the near future. Fortunately or unfortunately, depending on your views, with the EPL being recognized as the most attractive league in the world and the enormous upsurge in share values there will always be some billionaire person or corporation willing to part with their funds for the prestige and notoriety associated with the purchase of an EPL club.

If clubs do not rein in their spending in the not too distant future, the EPL will have few if any British owners.

Arsenal on the other hand should be commended for taking a logical and financially sound stance while still providing great entertainment on the pitch and being contenders year in and year out.

I sometimes get very irate when all the fair weather fans repeatedly lambaste Arsene and the Board, and want us to spend, spend, spend and win now at any cost without looking at the “BIG” picture.

]]> By: rock http://the-cannon.com/2008/05/07/lets-win-it-next-year-cesc-competition/#comment-40953 rock Wed, 07 May 2008 22:02:00 +0000 http://thecannon.wordpress.com/?p=885#comment-40953 "lets win it next year" is always the case, de ja vous, visit www.arsenalheat.blogspot.com to discuss just why the likes of hleb and fabregas are pondering their futures. “lets win it next year” is always the case, de ja vous, visit http://www.arsenalheat.blogspot.com to discuss just why the likes of hleb and fabregas are pondering their futures.

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