Wenger - 7 Days To Sort It Out. 25 August, 2008
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I was planning on writing some long rant about Arsene Wenger this afternoon. I’m really not happy with the guy at the moment and there are so many things that have gone unanswered. I’m fed up with all his lies and excuses, I don’t know who he thinks we are, but we’re not stupid. He promised a signing before the Twente game, time’s ticking.
But there’s really no point in me getting started on him. I thought I’d see what he does with the remaining 7 days of the transfer market. If he has no intention of bulking up our squad then I’m going to be seriously fucked off.
But when I clicked onto Arsenal.com this morning I was met by his headline: Wenger - Buying is not always the solution. Which had me fuming.
I’m not obsessed by signings, it’s just so, so clear that we need AT LEAST a new midfielder. Every single pundit on the television knows it, every journalist knows it, every fan knows it and I’m sure Wenger knows it. I want to know why he’s done nothing about it.
The only logical explanation is that we have no money. Which is ludicrous. The board are very quick to say they never deny the manager money and there are funds to spend. We’ve made a profit in recent transfer windows, and there’s plenty of money from sales just this summer to go and sign someone. I know we’re on a strict budget because of the stadium debt, but we still have money to spend on transfers.
The only thing that’s keeping me sane is the possibility that Wenger is scouting the world looking for the right player for Arsenal. Maybe he’s searching every league in the world looking for the perfect partner for Cesc. If this is the case (which I really doubt but I’m trying to stay positive) then why has he taken SO long to sort it out?
He has enquired about Barry and Alonso, which is a start, but if he wanted them he should’ve done it a long time ago before they got cup-tied in Europe. They are still viable options though, Arsene said last week that it doesn’t necessarily matter that a player is unavailable for Europe. They would have a reduced price too. Cesc’s said that he’d like to play with Alonso. It would be a very exciting Spanish partnership, with a lot of quality going forward. It would be a different style for Arsenal though; Xabi Alonso is certainly not a Flamini replacement. However if Arsene thinks it’s alright to play Denilson and Cesc together then why not Alonso and Cesc?
We’re so desperate for someone I’d pretty much take anyone! What we’ve got is simply not good enough and we need something to change it up. I’d just like to see Wenger show some intention in the transfer market.
So I’m just going to sit back and relax and see what the manager comes up with in the last 7 days of the window. We all know he likes a last minute signing, the past few seasons we’ve been frantically sorting out deals with an hour of the window left to go. That’s why I’m just going to leave it for a week and see what happens.
I nothing does, then I’m going to have to seriously question whether I still want this man as our manager. He’s got it all wrong so far this season and I want to see what he can change to get us playing well. 1 week Arsene, prove me wrong.
That’s all for today, thanks for reading.
Great post Chef’
I’m sick of all the negative comments, and this really cheered me up. It was not having ago and picking faults for the sake of it, but offering points that we all can see.
Top work
Absolutely correct assessment.
Wenger is a foocking kok! THats for sure! I’m really pizzzed of with this guy! I really hope that we will get new manager asap! His Transfer market skills is pizzing mi off big time! We need another midfielder and another CB! Now what the hell is he doing? Why the hell Mr. ARSE WENGER let senderos go to Milan? Is he fooking insane? Dont get me funny but i’m pizzzed off so much right now! Gooners you watch! This season no trophy for Arsenal! In Wenger we trust? Noooo!! foock that! Wenger if no news faces will arrive in next 7 days I will hate you till end of my days!
All this after one loss? Things aren’t perfect and we need a new midfielder everyone agrees with that. But if it’s all doom and gloom after one awful game will it be sunshine and roses if we spank FC Twente? I am disappointed that this website has adopted such a knee jerk reaction after one match.
I have a feeling that we are in the process of signing two players?We all know that he likes to play with the press so these latest comments dont suprise me at all.
I may be wrong but im expecting moves for both Niko Kranjcar and Michael Johnson.
LOL, panic buying is apparently out, but panic selling and sending out on loan to avoid having to show balls with the CB problem pairing of Billy and Kolo is apparently ok!
Come on lads! Don’t you see? Wenger is as usual, STUBBORN! Sean 2 players? What you on about? Give me at list one link to prove it. What about Senderos? Can anyone explain to me why the hell he loaned him to ac milan? Ha? I though that senderos will be second choice but now i dont know what to think! And i would like to ask you GOONERS what the hell is going on?
fair point dave. we need one or two quality signings no question but some of the anger and vitriol aimed at AW after the fulham loss is just crazy. Lets all calm down. We cant go calling his head after one loss when you consider how much he has done for our club. We’re not spurs. He has a challenge ahead of him but lets give the great man some time
I am frustrated too. The game on Saturday was painful to watch. Sure, I would like Wenger to spend the cash and get a GREAT DM, preferably Veloso, De La Red, or Inler. Barry is cup-tied, over priced, and overrated. Alonso is cup tied, over priced, and not defensive enough. I am sure he will sign one of these five players in the next 7 days. I wouldn’t be surprised if he signed a second player as well.
We do need a bit of perspective though.
-Many people say we are one player away from being contenders, if this is the case, why are many die hard Arsenal fans saying we are going to be a mid-table club and calling for Wenger’s head? Can one player really be the difference between contending and mid-table mediocrity? What ever happened to saying that one man does not make a team?
-If Man U draw or lose today, we will be ahead of them in the table.
-We are missing two, if not three of our first choice starting 11 - Cesc, Rosicky, and potentially Edu
-Wenger made the right choice in loaning out Senderos and keeping Djorou
-Let’s be honest, we trimmed the fat from last year. Lehmann passed his prime/washed up. Gilberto - lost a step. Hleb - great ball skills, 10 goals in all competitions in three seasons; Nasri is an upgrade. Flamini - we miss him, but he had one good season, and if Wenger signs one of the players listed above, it would be an upgrade. Diarra - a good player but a poor attitude…people seem to forget he orchestrated his move away from Arsenal.
-The season is two games old. We have time.
I support Arsenal through thick and thin, always have, always will do. I can accept defeats to any team as long as the squad tries its hardest. I will also accept defeats because we’re under strength due to injuries and / or suspensions. What I will not accept though, are abysmal performances borne out of squad weaknesses that are completely within our control.
Diarra went in January, Flamini in May, Hleb in June and and Gilberto in July. They have been “replaced” by a 17yr old, Samir Nasri and a 21yr old who’s spent the last 2 yrs of his career injured. The manager has done absolutely NOTHING to replace the departed players. To go into a game vs. Fulham, trying to pass ourselves off as on of Europe’s leading clubs, with a full back and a 20yr old at the heart of our midfield is nothign short of scandalous.
If the plan to to remain in the top 4 year after year with minimum expenditure just because of the new stadium is not only lunacy but massively unfair on Wenger, who will ultimately carry the can in the public’s eye.
I say, either lower expectations by warning fans of the lean times ahead due ot limited abilities to strengthen the squad because of cash flow issues, or go out there an spend the required amounts in order to remain competitve and generate revenues through longer cup runs and higher placed finishes.
To subject fans to the highest season-ticket prices in the land (Europe / world?) and not justify it through squad investment and on-pitch competitiveness is massively negligent and disrespectful.
I reserve final judgment until the transfer window closes but, as it stands, the board and the manager are skating on very thin ice.
jrock, not sure if i agree with loaning out senderos but your assessment on the players we’ve lost is bang on. but we should be winning at the likes of fulham with half our first team
The truth is bitter, but it need to be told. The truth is that as long as wenger remains in Arsenal, we are not going to get any trophy again. A lot of people will not agree with me, but time will tell. The man has lost all sense of ambition and he doesn’t gauge the feelings of the fans. He has been toying with the club with kids in the last four years and as long as it continues like this, it is bye bye to trophies. The big shock will come when we are knocked out of the big four, then it will dawn on him. His best days in the club are gone. Arsenal need new direction. We are now a butt of beer pubs jokes and it doesn’t move him at all. shame on him.
Tony, I’ve always thought Senderos was a good player and I’ve always been shocked by the treatment he gets from most Arsenal fans. Over the past couple of years, I’ve rarely seen any fans come to his defense on blogs or forums, and now that Wenger loans him out, people are up in arms. I don’t get it!
I agree although im not as relaxed as u 2 b honest im shitting it ive never witnessed anything like it in every area of the picth we were poor an i mean championship poor,an i hate 2 say it but the bosses tactics an use of subs were shocking the 1st fc 20 game was a real warning an at fulham the truth came 2 light .An i feel the club must b dead broke “buying aint the answer” it most definately is in this case the midfeild was terrible,non exsistant, i thought Johan did well at west brom so why was he droped 4 an overweight toure i think we need so much it would b impossible 2 fix in 7 days so heres my plan ……………………..Ade ……………………..Nasri Van persie…Ramsey…Fabregas…Wilshire\Eboue clichy…Djourou…….Gallas….sagna a as i think the boss will only sign 1 an he had better b superman
nzekwe AsughaI’m agree with you! But again if he won’t bring any new faces in our squad, thats it….. ARSE WENGER i will join all those people who want to see you AXED!
jrock i think its mainly down to the fact that we all know the squad needs to be beefed up yet we’ve let yet another player go, followed by hoyte last week and traore on loan too. The squad just keeps getting thinnner all the time. I know hoyte and senderos are probably not good enough for our first team but we need a squad to win competitions. Right now we’re down to the bare bones
I agree with TONY. One bad result (as bad as it was) does not mean doon & gloom for the reat of the season. The performance was abject though and we will need to wait and see the TWENTE match & the NEWCASTLE game to see if this was a one off. I cannot but agree that we do need some new signings but Wenger is right when he says that new signings do not resolve all the issues. However, a commanding Centre half who can dominate in the air would be VERY USEFUL and a midfielder to up the tempo (a la Flamini last season) could only HELP us.
Come on you GUNNERS!!
The season may only be three competitive games old, but the worrying thing is that we struggled against a very average Twente side, looked poor against WBA after a bright 15 minutes, and were abysmal at Fulham. This time last year, we had looked sharp in all three corresponding games. Yes, Cesc and Rosicky have been missing, but they are neither centre backs nor defensive midfielders, the places were we look particularly weak. I also believe it is a myth about some of the so-called youngsters. Denilson was so bad on Saturday, he made Eboue look resonable. Walcott continues to look out of his depth, Diaby is 23 and is far too casual to be the defensive midfielder that AW has suggested. Gibbs, Lansbury and Randall don’t appear to be making the progress that they promised a season ago. The most promising player is Wilshire and he is only 16. AW says there is no need to panic buy. I’ve got news for him, there most certainly is!
Guys, its no point mumbling here about this and that. Why not you guys go out there and hang a big banner request for new players while you’re in the stadium?
He definitely wont read all those requests and mumbling posted in the blogs or whatsoever, so give your damn shot in the stadium!
As everyone knows what the team needs and i bet so does Arsene, but we couldnt figured it out what are holding him back on those transfers, he could has reason behind which we dont know. So stop all the blames on him, he stil our very best manager so far. Buying is a must, just to wait who he’ll bring on. Finger cross, hopefully it does sort things out asap in order for us to remain in the title hunt!
Nzekwe Asugha summed it up prefectly I couldn’t agree more. **** off now Wenger, you are old and using Arsenal as a game to prove to the world how fab you are at spotting talent before anybody else. Swallow some pride and buy a recognised superstar the fans deserve it instead of saying after every signing, “Who is this bloke, I hope he becomes a good player”. I am sick of reading fans saying Wenger got us there but if he leaves us in this state it will be no more credit to him, a success will be to pass us over to Tony Adams whilst we are still at the top. Wenger is old and out of ideas. His excuses are painful. The reality of today is that you need to win virtually every game - if you drop points to Fulham you are as good as conceding the title. Camilla Parker Bowles has more chance of winning miss world than us winning anything this season. If I don’t see a top signing before the deadline you can go **** yourself. Our fans pump more money into our club than anyone - it’s about time they were given a decent return.
A good article. A feeling that many silent Arsenal supporters have. The team certainly needs a mature, class midfielder. However, there are additional, major requirements - a mature centre back, a new goalkeeper, Almunia is not of the calibre of other top teams, and I believe more crucially, we need a proven goalscorer. RVP has not delivered and, in the absence of Eduardo, who was fitting in very well, I can’t see where the goals are going to come from if Ade, as he is at the moment, can’t find the net. 2 goals against such poor opposition does not bode well for the future. Enough of the kids, Mr Wenger, lets have a proper balance to the team. And for goodness sake get rid of that prima donna Gallas. He is a major liability.
The problem is we have no decent backup midfielders, Eboue in midfield is a utter joke (even playing him is a joke), i agree with getting rid of Senderous as he lacked in the big games, and made too many mistakes which put the defence under pressure.
But if this was the plan why did we not sign Kompany, after watch our utter disgraceful performance on Satuday, i watch man City play on Sunday a player they signed on Thursday. Kompany who they signed for about 8 Mill, started in DM, M Richards got an injury and he then switch to CB and look the part in both positions, this was a player we was linked with, but we was told we couldn’t make the grade, strange as we signed S Nasri who doesnt look like he’s up for the roughstuff in the Prem for 11.5 Mill.
We need at least 2 players Alonso and inler, if we are even thinking of doing anything this year, we need some midfield flair as well as some rough stuff, look what happens when their no Cesc, (No performance) we was lucky in the first game, and now thats run out. We used to dominate teams , now we are being dominated.
Bottom line change is needed, and now!!!
I feel Eddie’s post was the most succinct and clear assessment of the situation as it stands. I also support Arsenal through thick and thin, but the performance on Saturday was abysmal; worse, it was without spirit or desire. And indeed, it seems everyone but Wenger can see the great void that our central midfield has become. I think Arsene owes the supporters an explanation for the lack of signings to, if not enhance the squad, then at least to replace the players we’ve lost. And yes, I realize it’s only 2 games in, but action must be taken now to solidify this team before it becomes 3 games, 4 games, 20 games in and any chance of trophies has long since passed us by. If there is no money to spend and this is why there are no more transfers IN, then please make it plain.
What pains me most is that Hull were able to defeat Fulham through sheer desire, and our side failed against them due to lack of same. For shame, lads.
Wenger was rocked when Abramovic bought the Chavs. He planned back in 02/03 that he would have to groom kids to come through.
Problem is the fans we’rent told that the best team in our history would be broken up & never replaced.
Either he has no funds or he decides to sticks to this nonsense masterplan of believing he can win the PL with his babes, whichever it is it’s doing immeasureable damage to the club.
It is amazing how how his stock has plummented so quickly.
7 Days. 7 very crucial days.
You guys need to chill. FFS I’ve never read a more whiny load of tosh in all my life. Wenger must go and get TA6 in? AW is the most successful Arsenal manager ever. Period. More successful than Chapman, more successful than Graham. We are 3 competitive games into the season, the transfer window is still open and we have won2 of 3 games (2 away from home).
I for one am sick to death of these tinternet blogs full of 13 year olds having a cheap crack at AW. This isn’t champ manager. What he says in public is often a smokescreen - so grow up and don’t take it personally.
AW has a nose for talent; his track record is superb. When he signed Sagna last year had anyone heard of him? No. Best right back in the prem last season. Lots more examples.
Calm yourselves down
4. Dave,
This isn’t a knee-jerk reaction to the Fulham loss. Our performances all season have been lacking but mainly this is about Wenger having a whole summer to sort out our problems and we’re now going into the last week of the transfer window still waiting. Which has been a result of our poor performances.
arsene wenger nous a decu depuis trois ans en procedant par les mensonges et la demagogie. pour qui voulez-vous prendre les gens? cela montre suffisament que wenger n!a aucune consiration pour les gens qui se sacrifient pour le club et le mec s!en fout completement.
arsene wenger doit s!adapter a la realite sur le terrain et faire comme les autres club. arsene s!il vous plait, ayez un peu de respet pour les autres. Apres tout c!est du loisir. tes gamins ne sont pas encore en mesure de jouer a ce niveau et a titre de rappel Arsenal n!est pas une ecole d!apprentissage. Ayez le courage d!acheter un milieu de terrain valable et qui sera a la hauteur de sa tache plutot que de bricoler par ci et par la.
Franchement, monsieur wenger vous avez decu l!espoir de toute une generation qui attendait de vous un minimum de respect dans vos engagements en tant qu!un manager de football. Vos propos a la presse nous decoivent beaucoup. Il vaut mieux pour vous de vous taire et ne rien dire parcequ!il n!ya plus personne qui vous suit ce dernier temps
although arsenal are bit short in midfield it never a good idea to panic buy, i agree we need one or two more players but it should be wright player and not any player and evon if buy more players they need to perform to highlevel. i think people need bare in mind that arsenal only had one player for training because almost every player was international duty, and quite franky the team did not show up that day ,but come out with the statement that our midfield is not good enough based on two games is rubbish, i feel that our strikers still have not got there sharness back,we were also without diaby,fab risisky and that did not help either, but i just think it was a bad day at the office that is all wenger alreadt knows he needs to had midfield but trust him find the right person and if he cant then he should wait until january but start claiming its doom and gloom after two games it a bit two early,arsenal have key players comming back and if the likes delinson can play to standard that i know they can we still have strong chance only thing i am concerned about is lack of numbers not the quality if the team
I fully agree with what has been said here.
If nothing is done in the coming days, that is to bring a really good central midfielder, than this season may just go to hell before it even started.
all those who stick up 4 wenger r u satisfied winning nothing every season bcoz our kids lack that killer instinct 2go all the way in anything? Stop praisin him 4past glories and look at the now. Havin lost 2fulham i think we r already out of the title race. It wood b a miracle if this defeat ended up 1 of 3 the entire season and we go on 2win it. Wen wants2b the man who wins on a shoestring budget he is 2proud2buy proven quality but that is what is required 2win. U wanna settle 4mediocrity then fuck off back 2france.
Come on lads if were honest we need more than one DM, flamini left a long time now, so this ain’t no new problem for wenger. Wenger already thinks that his replaced hleb/nasri, flam/ramsey, so not really bothered about buying or that’s the party line anyway.
Looking at the squad there’s ??? all over the place, how good is fabinski as backup, young/ CB pairing, depth of squad (we all saw the bench on saturday) eboue,walcott, rvp/ade combination and then the injuries. So really this squad IMO needs at least 3 1st teamers. We all know that ain’t happening, we’ve needed 3/4 players for the last 4 seasons now. So for those who think it’s a overreaction after one loss, not for me, it’s a build up over years. Bottom line the club isn’t getting stronger!
“all those who stick up 4 wenger r u satisfied winning nothing every season … ” No, I’m not satisfied and neither is AW. Read what he said. He’s more determined than ever to create a team that will dominate for seasons to come. This was a p155 poor result but only one. This man has brought more to the Arsenal than any other manager, and all you spotty teens are calling for his head. Wise up and put that gray matter to work - we still have 95% of the EPL season to go.
We were written off last season and were unlucky in both the CL and EPL. AW and his team will not let us down
RUBBISH RUBBISH RUBBISH,
DAVE, JROCKDC, REDRANDREAD, I’m glad there’re still gunners who are patient enough.
Warning!
don’t attack me without reading this closely and correctly. (Although I think there are (only) a few fans who will agree with me)
You know what, I’m so dissapointed that (most of) Arsenal fans are so short-fused and forget easily.
Chef: I post here regularly and enjoyed your blogs very much, TODAY IS THE FIRST TIME I hate it. WHY? This loss is like the end of the world for everyone who hated that we didn’t win anything for 3 seasons. I respect you as a committed fan, but why are you attacking Wenger so much? Because he doesn’t do what we want? Because he doesn’t buy? Because he sold players? You need to sit back and think about why he sold the players he sold. And is BUYING ONE or TWO PLAYERs gonna make us unbeatable? And is it his false that Barry costs around 18-20 mil? And is it his false that Chelsea inflated the market so much he decided to go the other way building his OWN players? We’ll see, but not after two games. And I wish you remember last year’s performance, mate.
To me, it all started wrongly when fans booed at their own player on the FIRST GAME, although he showed some stupidity in the summer.
3 SEASONS IS NOTHING BEFORE WENGER CAME!!!!!!!!!!don’t you people ever fucking forget this. Before Wenger we were an average team, with him, this club was transformed and become the powerhouse and broke so many records it’s ridiculous.
I know we were so poor on saturday, we watched the same game. But what I don’t get is why everyone is blaming Wenger for this. Is it his false that players don’t have hearts and wanna leave so bad? Is it his false that he believes, unlike many of you, in these players?
Last year we ALMOST win it, remember? Remember how injury after injury spawned up and killed us? Hmm, and it’s basically the same team minus a few goals if I remember correctly.
Yes, we played so badly, but it’s TWO FUCKING GAMES into the season. Don’t think that I’m furious that we lost, I still am, but I won’t ever turn on MY OWN FUCKING players and the BEST MANAGER IN OUR FUCKING HISTORY.
Not the right man for the job anymore? It’s so shit it shouldn’t even come up as a question.
The first two seasons after our last trophy were transforming years. Last year, I’m challenging anyone who will say Arsenal underperformed and Wenger lost it. Remember how we lost to Liverpool in Europe? YEah, it’s his false alright. And I remember people prasing Walcott so much after that game, now he’s just another clown to you.
We lost, fuck, accept it and move on. We may win the fucking league without buying anymore players, YOU DON”T KNOW, and don’t tell me you know, you don’t.
FUcking Chelsea bought players like crazy to be 2nd place in everything last year. Yeah, BUYING THE SOLUTION ALRIGHT.
I’m not saying this team don’t need improvements, we need at least one more body in the midfield. But I won’t attack Wenger and say that we won’t win anything. Quit crying and speculate so damn negatively on our own team, Man U fans will be laughing at us reading these posts.
Why an I prasing Wenger’s past glories? Because those glories FUCKING counted for something. 49 unbeatable alone should put him into every Arsenal fans’s hearts forever.
nzekwe Asugha—-wrong, go support some other team, mate, cause you are a waste saying we won’t win anything with Wenger and middle table is where we’ll be.
I’m so surprised so many people are looking down at Arsenal. Other people, pundits, I can understand, BUT ARSENAL FANS? WHAT THE FUCK!
The only thing I agreed with you all is Eboue’s playing in midfield, this I think has to be stopped.
Everyone has opinions but saying and believing in getting nowhere with these players only will make them worse. I feel so sorry for these players, even their own fans don’t believe in them.
Anyone who wants to know why Wenger is the best, feel free to read my last post.
I hope you all get some sense and start supporting the great man and our players again.
We always won our own way, NOT BUYING like crazy.
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et’s get the spirit up and wish for the best, I STILL BELIEVE WE’LL win something this year.
Arsene Wenger is a brilliant manager. I suspect he may well be a quiet brilliant man. When George Weah won the world player of the year award, Wenger was the first man he called out for. George Weah was the guy who paid all the expenses of his national team, as the country was skint. You know, this guy’s no Ian Wright. My point being, I’m going to ride it out with Wenger. I suspect he’s forgotten more about the game than you lot will ever know.
Diceman,
i read your posts on here regularly and most of the time you make good relevant points but you cannot keep harping on about what wenger has done over 4 years ago. We have listened to him and his lousy excuses for 3 seasons now and constantly being promised jam tomorrow is wearing a bit thin. His cutting edge has gone and it just isnt going to get any better with the bunch of players he currently has.
Saturdays result was with virtually our strongest team and fulham got beat by hull city the week before. This is his team from 1 to 11 and the blame lies firmly at his door for 3 years of failure. The man is playing about with my beloved team of 44 years and its time for him to step aside.
Its only an opinion as everyone elses on this superb blog, you worship the man but i think he has had his day.
George weah ? move on johnny, you too are getting a bit too wrapped up in the past. Wenger probably does know more than i ever will, but whats your point? Done howe probably does but that doesnt mean i want him back!
I feel the same..wenger has been brilliant theres no denying it but i think he’s become really stubborn in this youth policy thing. In my own opinion i think toulalan from lyon would be brilliant for arsenal but i cant see that happening now. michael johnson is not the answer, everyone knows that…i just wish wenger would get his act togther soon and buy some proven talent because on paper spurs have more depth which makes me feel like shit personally
I think the problem is the club doesn’t seem to realise that 30 or 40 million investment in the squad now will bring the returns come may. If we do end up going in the wrong direction and drop out of the top 4 its going to cost us a hell of alot more on missed champions league money, tv money…etc. I dont know if its wenger’s stubborness or the board being cheap but we have to have to spend now. Either way i’ll support AW all the way, he’ll always be a legend in my eyes
Tony,
Bang on with all your points except the last one, Wenger is legend in my eyes and probably the best manager in our history but a club moves on and AW has had 12 years at the club and 8 have been the best i can remember but theres no getting away with it, the last 3 have been poor and i think we need to change direction i.e wage structure, transfers and youth policy if we are to survive. We was told that when we moved to the new stadium we would at last be able to compete with the biggest clubs in europe as far as transfers and salaries are concerned because of the increased revenue, well, whats happened???
bob mcnabs ferret,
Much appreaciated for your comments.
We all have different opionions. And you’re right, I worship the guy, I never see anyone better than him managing a football club in every aspects this great.
The only thing, though, is that at least wait until this season pans out. You of all people should know that any teams nowdays could lose to any teams, it doesn’t matter if they lost to Hull. And heck, we could beat any team on a great day.
We were poor, we all are frustrated, but calling his name now won’t make anything better. Tell me a better manager than him right now to take on Arsenal with a guarantee of success.
Maybe he’s not toying with our team, he’s just a very confident and stubborn old man who believes so much in HIS players, you know.
I might be wrong, we might end up out of top 4 like many people said.
But you all could be wrong also, we could be champions. Man U lost 5 games but still won last year. And they lost to Bolton who lost to lower ranked team. My point is losing to a team and lost to Hull doesn’t mean anything, it just means we sucked really bad on the day with no luck so we lost. (Liverpool sucked on both games but with luck they got 6 points)
All I’m saying is just wait, we’ll know for sure if our team is heading in to the right direction or not come later this season. It’s better to lose now and be stronger and stronger than be like last year you know. Right now, just cheer up and be patient, I agree our squad is thin but stick to them and show your support, I think we’ll be alright.
PS: Senderos had gone to Milan on loan now. He looked so promising at first, what a shame. I’m not worry ’cause I rate Song very high after seeing him in the Olympics, hope he won’t dissapoint.
Wenger just doesn’t like players demanding overpriced wages.
And although we went trophy-less last 3 seasons, the quality was there. We didn’t do too bad if you really think about it, losing to Barca, the kids losing to Chelsea, and finishing 4 points off Man U last year. It’s not too bad you know.
When Fabregas and Rosicky are back and Wenger buys one more midfielder, I’m sure we’ll be the a different team. We should’ve beat Fulham though, I know.
Diceman,
your enthusiasm is commended and i almost want to change my view but i cant help thinking that all the problems we have with greedy impatient players and wengers inability to change track with transfers, wages and youth policy make for a very long season. Perhaps i cant think of too many managers out there who could do a better job but surely we cant sleepwalk into mediocrity because of a “stubbon old man”.
wenger lovers - wenger is finished period. Arsenal need new direction now. We cried out 4 him 2strengthen in jan but he was the only person who didnt think we needed 2. What happened our weak squad was exposed. Now it is even weaker than it was then. Cock up after cock up and a sillier excuse every time. Get out the fuckin chequebook and buy a quality centre bak and midfielder of the viera and adams mould. My weekly shoppin weighs more than these players no wonder teams are advised 2kick us.
….. and losing to barca two years ago and spurs and utd last season has been hard to take, especially the way we lost and now so early on in the season this debarcle at fulham, its just getting out of hand. You got to look at the bigger picture, this isnt knee jerk.
Pete,
good points,
excuse after excuse, lets get the yank or rusky in and start to spend some tin. If wenger is as good as all the AW lovers say then perhaps he could mould a team out of top drawer players instead of kids and win us the champs league.
I wrote so much, but this is a topic I have a lot to say, so bear with me.
As I said, he’s stubborn, who isn’t, but I still rate him the best.
If this season the team fail to impress, then maybe I’ll be on your side.
Right now he’s with us, he’s a gunner, so I’ll stick with him and support. All I could say is we were never (and still aren’t, and will not be under his reign) a mediocrity team with him. If what he did for 12 seasons, including the last 3, were mediocre, then I don’t know what to say. Even the so called big team like Barca, Milan, Inter, hit a very low period. But under him, we went to Europe every year, challenge for the title every year but 2.
There’s no way the club will sack him so maybe we should all write to him, if you want him to change the way he did things so bad, not being sarcastic.
Wenger is good, why are you people being so darn hard on the guy?
I emphasis on his past successes because them alone should granted him time to mould his third team, this is his 4th and last to prove that this team can win, so wait.
And like I said, can you guarantee that if we buy Robinho, Barry, and a world class defender, we’ll win the league or Europe??? Look at Chelsea. Sure, we’ll be better, but football is a funny game. Look how a lot of fans turned on the best manager in the club’s history (again).
Losing to Barca was not even’s Wenger’s false, why are you bringing it up? We all got equally hurt badly from that game, so unlucky. And Wenger’s full strength team virtually never lost to Spurs.
Fair enough,
i dont think he would ever be sacked, even if we were relegated so being a realist i know it isnt going to happen, however i really do think that he needs to sort himself out, i mean where are we going with eboue and denilson? theres too many average players at the club who just aint going to win us trophies. The man needs to spend,spend,spend !
Eboue is shit at midfield I agree. Denilson could turn out great though, I’m hopeful.
And one last point, promise: we went 3 years without trophy after Wenger’s first double. We also lost in Europe on penalties. Then after 3 years, the 2nd generation showed their class.
Just saying.
Dice, I wouldn’t bet on us winning a third double after 3 years. Not unless we get serious replacements. Sendy’s off as well. Silvestre is injury-prone. Rosicky’s keeping the physio’s table warm for van Persie. Even after we sign a DM, we’re still too short for a title challenge. Remember, we were short last year, before the mass exodus?
I’m Henny Penny, and this my daily review.
There is only one answer to this chaos,and that is the fact that Arsenal,unfortunately is in serious money trouble…..
and that we as fans of this socalled Club have been deceived…
here’s some pointers..
1. no funds to keep flamster or hleb (wages)
2.almost lost Ade (wages
the first two points relates heavy on *balancing*the books which in other terms means get players who will play for less….and that again leads to Our shopping list of Youngsters…
1.Wenger is forced by the *board of idiots*to sell players for the net sum of 30€ a year ok..not true well lets add up,diarra+hlep+hoyte+muamba+silva=about the net sum of 30€,then for the rest of the balance ..bought Nasri around 13.5€, A.Ramsey about 6€but then again we got around 9€for th resale of the most un talented youngster i have ever seen Bentley
thank god for that …and with the presumed deal of Senderos to Milan…it evens it up,and when Djourou is sent packing ,we might be able to buy another *TEEN* sensation..
it is a nice feeling to know that we most certainly are the best U-21 team in the world,but Mr Wenger ? i thought we played in the ranks of seniors….????…or have i got it wrong..and We are up to creating the best paid care center in the world…
and Mr Wenger what where You up too,this summer when the war was on ..oh yes You where reporting from the Euros…chilling out…while the nervousness You see in the team this season build up by romours and unhappy players,,,didnt You get it..???
ill be a Gooner till the day i die…..and is more than old enough to remember ..boring Arsenal….got over that ..and i will get over the times of Diapers and playstation soccer…..
Great post,I’d definitely have to agree with todays blog.Wengers got most things right over the last 10 years but I must say that this summer I’m finding it hard to agree with anything the guy comes up with.It seems almost as if he’s accepted we wont win anything so he’s not gonna have a cut off it in case we do bomb out,quite disappointing really.I know its all a bit knee jerk after 1 lost game,but this is the same team that had lost to hull the week before,and beaten us once in 43 years if i remember setantas analysts correctly
f*ck. just got back from hols and can’t sleep. tequila hasn’t worn off yet!
first thing i’d like to ask is, did anyone think perhaps that maybe, and i might be totally wrong here, just maybe… the likes of Gallas, Ade and RVP’s performances, the so-called “experienced” part of our team, were affected by the crazy situation going on in the transfer market?????
Just consider them looking around at their rivals…
Chelsea kept all their important players and added Deco… who’s now scored 2 goals in 2 games…
Man Ure kept all their important players and are looking to spend upwards of 25m to add another “top, top quality player with experience” to their team (note the use of Arsene’s words there…!)
Liverpool have added Robbie Keane who although overpriced, is a top, top quality player with experience…
So, what has Arsene been up to in the closed season… hmmm, let me see…
Watched Flamini walk out, let Gilberto go, Hleb go… and this after letting Diarra go in the last transfer window.
Don’t panic, he’s bought… Ramsey, a 17 yr old who has only played 10 games in the Championship, Nasri who looks good but has just come out of a long injury lay off, Bischoff who has never played for his previous club’s first team bar one cameo in a Cup competition and Silvestre who is in the latter stages of his career, injury prone and, oh let me guess, currently injured!
I’m not surprised Arsenal fans are unhappy. Which of these are “top, top quality with experience” ?
I said over a month ago, if we bought Arshavin and Barry we would add some good quality to a young, gifted but inexperienced team.
Hleb and Rosicky don’t create enough. That’s why we need a player like Arshavin. Flamini had an almost British fighting spirit. Barry has this.
Imagine the likes of Gallas and Co walking out with the team bolstered with new players of this quality. Imagine other teams playing against us with MORE strength than last year…
Silvestre on the back of these 2 signings wouldn’t be such a bad option but why not convince Gilberto to stay and save the bother? Is Silvestre any better an option than him? Aren’t they the same only Gilberto would have provided more stability?
Wenger was gloating about this signing which cost 700k and didn’t achieve anything except replace a like for like player with the exception of a left foot.
What is clear is that Arsenal are not investing in their playing staff anywhere near as much as their rivals and this will eventually catch them up. This comes at a time when fans (like me and you!) are paying more money than ever to go and watch them play.
If we drop down to 5th place or lower, will we be out of the Champions League next year with the real prospect looking at a less than full stadium. I cannot see how this can be sound financial management.
Arsenal Fans have every right to expect their team to challenge for honours as PHW, AW and everyone else in the management have given their commitment to this. Are they misleading the fans maybe?
Or is it Wenger’s blind belief that he can conjure up a challenge for both the PL and CL with a small, elite squad of versatile youth?
I know which one of these my money is on…
I think Alan Hansen’s cliche is very apt right now.
Now, I’m off to sleep and when I wake up, it’ll all be a horrible dream…. we DID buy Arshavin when Wenger “looked at him” (hope that’s the right looked!), before the Euros… And we bought Barry and we bought Micah Richards…. the season started with a whopping 4 nil home win against West Brom with Barry scoring a pen after Arshavin was cruelly tripped in the box, and took all 3 points at Craven Cottage after a 2 nil Ade badge kissing double…. the press were in awe of our style…. MOTD were taking back all their negative comments and Boris Johnson invited the team to have Sunday afternoon Tea with him and TEAM GB….
THE CANNON.COM AND ALL THOSE FUCKING IDIOT LITTLE JOKERS THAT KNOW NOTHING ABOUT ARSENAL FOOTBALL CLUB.. STFU OR GO AND SUPPORT CHELSEA THEY BUY STARS!!
ARSENE WENGER, THE GREATEST MANAGER THE WORLD HAS EVER SEEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DEAR ALL Arsenal Fans,
As an Arsenal fan living outside the UK, I can tell you that the web community of Arsenal fans has never been so divided and so agressive against each others.
NOW it works 2 ways:
1) If you say trsut Wenger and let’s see were we go - You’re a mor… and so on
2) some disagree but want Wenger out today and buy Villa + Huntelar + Benzema + Zapata + Barry + Buffon ,… - Some fans are telling them to go supporting Chelsea.
Go to any supporter pub in the world, it’s the same everywhere fans always want more.
Keep it down guys for f.. sake’s
Yes we played like a pub team at Fulham and that is not acceptable.
I hope it won’t be accepted inside the club and provoke a reaction.
Yes we need at least one more player (don’t dream we’ll gat only one)
Yes the club made some serious communication mistake and Wenger is not helped enough on his job (it’s time for that new CEO or so to arrive)
Yes Wenger infuriates me as much as you when is purposly use the media like he did this summer but calling for his head is simply ridiculous. You want the club in a deep crisis for 2-3 years, then call for his head.
I want to keep that short then I’ll stop here.
We have enough negativity towards the club from biaised UK medias. In fact the medias got exactly what they wanted from most arsenal fans. A evidence that their campain works.
Come on Arsenal
All this talk is coming too early…. At least Lasagne is giving Wenger 7 days before he slams him. Myself, i will give him until December and see how things are going then.
Last night Paul Scholes played in Man Utd”s midfield at Pompey.He was superb. He is also 32 years old.
Paul Scholes wouldnt get a game for Arsenal because he is too old.
Got to agree with Spike (as an expat too) I’ve not seen opinion so divided on Arsene, the team, the board etc.
I saw the Fulham game live and I have to say that we looked like Fulham 3 years ago. A “nice” team attempting to play football but not threatening anyone. The sort of team you go to and win 1 or 2 nil and not really feel worried.
We should not be in this position. We are supposed to be in the “big 4″ but as someone rightly pointed out they dont have an average full back/woeful midfielder and a 20 year old as their CM partnership.
Where are the “go to” players in our team. The scum have rooney, ronaldo, ferdinand. The chavs have terry, essien, drogba, lampard. The scousers have stevie G, torres, reina. We appear to have
Cesq and bugger all else. Gallas is a great defender but only alongside an Adams, RVP is injury prone and adebayor is no Henry.
The last thing we need is Cesq burnt out and looking for the door because he is doing it all himself.
We need a leader. A midfielder in the Bryan Robson/Stevie G/PV4 mould. I know they dont come along often but I cant see where the inspiration is coming from.
I’d like to think Sean has a grapevine into the boss’ office and Kranjcar and Johnson are arriving but I’m not holding my breath.
Come on boss, give us a silver lining.
re: “30. honest PETE - 25 August, 2008
all those who stick up 4 wenger r u satisfied winning nothing every season bcoz our kids lack that killer instinct 2go all the way in anything? Stop praisin him 4past glories and look at the now. Havin lost 2fulham i think we r already out of the title race. It wood b a miracle if this defeat ended up 1 of 3 the entire season and we go on 2win it. Wen wants2b the man who wins on a shoestring budget he is 2proud2buy proven quality but that is what is required 2win. U wanna settle 4mediocrity then fuck off back 2france.”
you are a dipstick. learn to spell.
we are not out of contention: look at chelsea’s start to the season last year. think what will happen if wenger leaves- (clue: leeds united.)
and more then anything, you are telling the manager who took us to an entire season unbeaten to “fuck off back to france” on the back of one defeat with a number of players about to return from injury. you are a disgrace.
it was really agonising if U guys will agree with me, watching my dearling Arsenal play the way they did as an ardent Fan and adult i felt like crying to say the least. Agreed we have injury worries in the MF but,in France b4 coming to ENDLAND, Nasri plays 10 and since we are sort Y not play him there for creativity. instead what were we presented with on the day by AW????? Eboue of all persons !!!!!!!!!!!!. That guy for me should be discarded long ago. Please and please if AW fails to bring a WORLD-CLASS DF in 7 days, we are automatically out of the top 4, talkless of “A trophy”. And, AW should GRACEFULLY leave the scene 4 he has finished with IDEAS.
I said too much already so:
Everyone should stop talking shit. We support the same team.
There’re enough people who want to see us go down so bad, and how they all said we can’t do shit with young players — this is ONE of the reason why I’m sticking with Wenger. I, like him, want to prove everyone wrong and believe these players can do it, just a bit of luck will help alot.
Last thing:
3 years shouldn’t give ourselves rights to JUDGE, I’m not saying criticise, what that person has been doing for a decade. You can talk shit about him all you want but the bottom line is he deliverd! And we never go out of the top 4 for fuck’s sake, we challenged for the title EVERY SEASON but 2 under him. Are all his greatness to be undone with 2 bad seasons (last year to me was good) and 1 game against Fulham????
And he will keep deliver us trophies. He won’t without the same support though.
Do any of you not think that we are just waiting until after tomorrows game before we go and sign anyone? We have 1 foot in the champions league and once we go through and the money is there then I fully expect Wenger to use some of it…… he loves those last minute deals.
it’s not just the fulham lost, we have been shit since the emirates cups and of course the 1st leg twente game and wba; we won but played badly. beating a real madrid side with no prior training and games is nothing to be proud of. so it’s not a knee jerk reaction! the cracks are creeping up fast upon our depleted & weak team!
And a very good post by the way.
Arsene has been coming up with different interviews and quotes everytime we get our hopes up then crushes and spits all over them with his new quotes! We lose 3 central midfield players over 6 months at least replacing them, is not considered panic buying, it’s the only right thing to do!! the club is showing no ambition and no respect to us loyal fans!
i do think Arsene knows what hes doing … though i do agree that are midfield is poo and we need a new guy in there. He also said that he’d have a new signing before the FC Twente second leg. There is only around 9 hours left for that then! I was really annoyed with “buying is not always the solution.” Grrrr. We’ve been **** ever since the Emirates cup. Fulham punished us.
i reckon arsene is just making up a load of more excuses about we do not need to sign players and so on because he has gone for a few midfielders and none of them have signed. i reckon he is gonna spend every second this week trying to get a new midfielder. i reckon he wont sign barry though because hes 19M and arsene will be desperately trying to make an excuse all week that hes too old or hes not right for the team even tho we already know that he just doesnt want to spend all his money.
ps: does anybody know rvp’s scoring racord, i know he does not play much because ofhis injuries but even when he does play he doesnt score much
“I know we’re on a strict budget because of the stadium debt, but we still have money to spend on transfers.”-
When you are under debt, how can you claim that you have enough money for buying a new player? Please, don’t get me wrong dude. I think, Arsenal board is lucky that they have a manager like Arsene Wenger. Indicating the recent disagreement between Liverpool boss Benitez and Liverpool chief over Gareth Barry move, I want to say that Wenger is not someone who always to try to show his best whatever he is given at the stock. Everybody knows that Arsenal is under debt because of buying the new stadium, and everybody including Gunners board also knows it very well that Wenger is not a demanding coach like other teams.
To be honest, I agree with you on the fact that Arsenal does need a centre midfielder, at least to bolster the reserve in the midfield, so that Wenger can have enough options in the midfield whenever it is needed, be it for injury or for resting players during the busy closing months.
I think, Wenger mostly tried to sign Gokhan Inler, who was valued at 10 m pound. With Inler’s refusal, Arsenal boss is now left with two options: Barry and Alonso- who are valued in the range of 18 m pounds. Who knows, that might be the problem.
At the end, I think, sometimes we criticize Wenger overly, what he does not deserve, given that he has lots of restrictions.
arsenal blog,
Ur post could be the most sensible one so far under this topic, even I admit my posts are very bias towards wenger alot.
After all, why wouldn’t he wanna buy more players? And more importantly, why wouldnt he want to win things more than us? There might be somethin behind what we know.
Wengers had all summer to sort out his midfield problems and more defending of his inept management is no basis for a sensible discussion. All the excuses people on here use from the new stadium to transfers etc etc are only papering up the cracks, there isnt a team in the land that has lost or let go of so many players and then gone on to win the league. The blokes well and truly lost the plot, the team looked like a rudderless ship on saturday and is in desperate need of major investment.
On a lighter note…………… surely we cant play that bad twice on the trot!! I hope vela plays tonight and if we get 2 goals up then stick our jack on.
COME ON YOU GUNNERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
what is that in van persies boots? Fuckin lead? He keeps hittin the street lights outside the stadium!
No, trust Wenger. I, like every Gooner, thinks that we REALLY need a central midfielder. I’m desperate to see Alonso to Arsenal. But Wenger is the manager. I bet he has some tricks up his sleeves. So yeah, sit back and relax. Wenger is not stupid.
IN WENGER WE TRUST.
COME ON YOU GUNNERS.
Arsenal 4-0 Twente (6-0 agg).
Look at all the numpties above talking as if we’re doomed to failure. Suck it up and see how things go, because we’ve had leaner times before. Or are most of you ‘fans’ blokes who only started supporting Arsenal after the Invincibles?
Take your whining to some other team because real Gooners stick with the team, and that includes the manager.
The Man U fans stuck with Ferguson while we were off doing the double and romping around unbeaten, I don’t see why we can’t back our manager.
I’m just thankful that Arsenal play good football.
I understand all the frustration.
But although I’d like to see Arsenal buying player after player, I said before that it doesn’t guarantee anything, much less winning trophies.
A lot of people were pissed off at Wenger when Henry was allowed go and started saying we won’t be in top 4 etc……And look how we did last year, we were better off without him than with him two years before.
Frustrated at him, yes; would like to see him go, that’s over the line. If we win the league this year, you all will be sorry you ever talk shit about him so much. The team play well when they’re confident, so we better give them confidence.
Why am I sticking to the past so much? Because Wenger’s records speak for themselves. If you all still insist he’s not the best manager in our history then I’m lost for words. Other managers (for other teams) bought players like their fans wanted, but did their bring successes like Wenger did?
Benitez bought so many players, did they ever be able to compete for the league title??? Sometimes it’s not the problem of getting new players, IT”S HOW TO GET THE BEST OUT OF THE PLAYERS WE HAVE. If we do that, then I believe we’ll kick asses.
You all said this and that, saying we won’t win with young playes, won’t win when we let go so many players. Do you know for sure? And as Arsenal fans, why are you so sure and don’t you wanna hold your words for maybe until a couple months into the season, not after 2 games with players coming back?
I still insist, and this I’ll always say, we will never ever find another manager who’s as great as Wenger.
P.S. And I told you Denilson just had a bad partner on Saturday, we looked a different team don’t we? (Bendtner made me like him less and less though, he’s so bad last night. The goal should be Denilson’s credit not his, he fucked it up but got lucky) Newcastle better be prepared to get bombarded!!!
GO THEO!!!
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